Comments on: Too Much Beatbox Or Not Too Much Beatbox http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm Digital Marketing Management and Brand Development Mon, 06 Feb 2012 05:58:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: elfatih http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-90237 elfatih Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:39:55 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-90237 Salaam alaikom brother bilal i have had a strong fight with myself because i used to think that music is so beautiful and fun, but when time passed by and i got more attached to it - and that is what usually happens when you listen to music - i started to prefer it over the Qur'an. And then, only then i stopped it before i knew what is the ruling of it in Islam. but i really thank Allah for following my fitra before i took lines with my mood and followed music. It is a hard battle indeed, and yes, it is a faster way to reach people, but the problem with people who listen to music is that they get bored easily and that is why they need to be mesmerized every now and then with a new vibe, it is an unending series of reaction bro. but my advice to you is first do Istikhara, and really think of the pleasure of Allah {swt} because that is what counts most. believe me. and keep up this fantastic work of yours because you .... have enormous talent my dear brother. but always remember Allah like you use to. and here is an article that can help you look at it from a different perspective http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/5011/musical%20instruments Salaam alaikom brother bilal
i have had a strong fight with myself because i used to think that music is so beautiful and fun, but when time passed by and i got more attached to it – and that is what usually happens when you listen to music – i started to prefer it over the Qur’an. And then, only then i stopped it before i knew what is the ruling of it in Islam. but i really thank Allah for following my fitra before i took lines with my mood and followed music.
It is a hard battle indeed, and yes, it is a faster way to reach people, but the problem with people who listen to music is that they get bored easily and that is why they need to be mesmerized every now and then with a new vibe, it is an unending series of reaction bro. but my advice to you is first do Istikhara, and really think of the pleasure of Allah {swt} because that is what counts most. believe me.
and keep up this fantastic work of yours because you …. have enormous talent my dear brother.
but always remember Allah like you use to.
and here is an article that can help you look at it from a different perspective
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/5011/musical%20instruments

]]> By: AlBaraa http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89749 AlBaraa Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:48:31 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89749 @Siraaj - Ditto :-) @Siraaj -
Ditto :-)

]]> By: Siraaj http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89705 Siraaj Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:38:27 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89705 It's an interesting question - what if one wears fake silk instead of real silk? fake gold instead of real gold? Is it the material, or the feel of the material? different scholars come down on these issues with opposing conclusions based on legitimate differences. In the end, we each will have to face Allah, and the most important point is that we make the decision of what we follow based on the desire to please Allah, or that we don't believe what we are doing will harm our relationship with Allah. If we can keep these two in mind priorities in mind while asking for guidance, I'm confident that even if we are wrong, so long as we strove our best to please Allah, in the end, this is what matters most. Siraaj It’s an interesting question – what if one wears fake silk instead of real silk? fake gold instead of real gold? Is it the material, or the feel of the material? different scholars come down on these issues with opposing conclusions based on legitimate differences.

In the end, we each will have to face Allah, and the most important point is that we make the decision of what we follow based on the desire to please Allah, or that we don’t believe what we are doing will harm our relationship with Allah. If we can keep these two in mind priorities in mind while asking for guidance, I’m confident that even if we are wrong, so long as we strove our best to please Allah, in the end, this is what matters most.

Siraaj

]]> By: Adbul http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89692 Adbul Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:40:57 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89692 Alhumdhulillah, you seem have tremendous talent. However, on this issue, a story comes to mind of the Yahood fishing laying nets on Saturday, when they prohibited from fishing. Allah knows best. It is the intent that counts, not technicalities, which the lawyers can argue till the cows come home. However it is spun, if the intent is replace the void filled by "sound" produced by musical instruments, it just doesn't work for me. Alhumdhulillah, you seem have tremendous talent. However, on this issue, a story comes to mind of the Yahood fishing laying nets on Saturday, when they prohibited from fishing. Allah knows best. It is the intent that counts, not technicalities, which the lawyers can argue till the cows come home. However it is spun, if the intent is replace the void filled by “sound” produced by musical instruments, it just doesn’t work for me.

]]> By: AlBaraa http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89610 AlBaraa Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:34:15 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89610 @MISS - Speaking from a <b>TECHNICAL</b> perspective: If the "vibe" of club, music or rhythm is what is intended, then that sound designer did a good job. If it wasn't intended, then the sound designer needs to be replaced. Speaking from a <b>SPIRITUAL</b> perspective: From what I follow and understand based on what my teachers have taught me, MUSICAL Instruments ARE wrong solely for being MUSICAL instruments mainly because of the understanding of the word "ma'aazif" translates into Musical Instruments. Ma'aazif are on of the things that according to RasulAllah-swt people will try to make halaal, along with the wearing of slik for men, fornication and wine. The hadeeth is saheeh - look it up if you wish. I suggest it's best to seek out your local imam and teacher and have them clear up the issue for you personally. What effect does it have on the soul? I believe it varies from person to person. Allahu alam. @MISS -
Speaking from a TECHNICAL perspective:
If the “vibe” of club, music or rhythm is what is intended, then that sound designer did a good job. If it wasn’t intended, then the sound designer needs to be replaced.

Speaking from a SPIRITUAL perspective:
From what I follow and understand based on what my teachers have taught me, MUSICAL Instruments ARE wrong solely for being MUSICAL instruments mainly because of the understanding of the word “ma’aazif” translates into Musical Instruments.

Ma’aazif are on of the things that according to RasulAllah-swt people will try to make halaal, along with the wearing of slik for men, fornication and wine. The hadeeth is saheeh – look it up if you wish.

I suggest it’s best to seek out your local imam and teacher and have them clear up the issue for you personally.

What effect does it have on the soul? I believe it varies from person to person. Allahu alam.

]]> By: miss http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89576 miss Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:30:24 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89576 Assalamu alaikum wrwb bro... Just wondering, what if, using the aforementioned analogy, the carpet gives off the vibe of club music/rhythm? I think beatboxing sounds really good and attractive and all...but it truly tempts people to start moving...and some of the beats remind me of disco beats. I think the musical instruments are not wrong solely for being instruments, its about the effect they can have on the soul. Assalamu alaikum wrwb bro…
Just wondering, what if, using the aforementioned analogy, the carpet gives off the vibe of club music/rhythm? I think beatboxing sounds really good and attractive and all…but it truly tempts people to start moving…and some of the beats remind me of disco beats. I think the musical instruments are not wrong solely for being instruments, its about the effect they can have on the soul.

]]> By: Holly Garza http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89274 Holly Garza Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:16:29 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89274 Salaam Alaikum I think you're work is very good and enjoy the promo Salaam Alaikum I think you’re work is very good and enjoy the promo

]]> By: Abu Zayd http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89242 Abu Zayd Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:04:48 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89242 I am a big fan of your work Belal. Your work has taken the ummah to another level of professionalism and dawah, and charted the course for Muslim organizations and institutions. I think your decision not to use instruments is to be commended. I don't see the big deal with all the fuss over that last Almaghrib trailer. Anyone who saw it has to admit it that it was a fine piece of work that very few can replicate, and it definitely encapsulates what AlMaghrib is about to a wider audience. Frankly, I feel part of the controversy has to do with cultural preferences, as most people don't have issues with Bakhater/Alafasy/etc. who use sad, wailing background humming tones since those are associated with the East, but the same people have problems with "beatboxing" which sounds more Western. If these audio options become more and more restricted, the videos are likely to get less and less interesting. Keep up the work. May Allah accept our intentions in all that we do. I am a big fan of your work Belal. Your work has taken the ummah to another level of professionalism and dawah, and charted the course for Muslim organizations and institutions. I think your decision not to use instruments is to be commended. I don’t see the big deal with all the fuss over that last Almaghrib trailer. Anyone who saw it has to admit it that it was a fine piece of work that very few can replicate, and it definitely encapsulates what AlMaghrib is about to a wider audience.

Frankly, I feel part of the controversy has to do with cultural preferences, as most people don’t have issues with Bakhater/Alafasy/etc. who use sad, wailing background humming tones since those are associated with the East, but the same people have problems with “beatboxing” which sounds more Western.

If these audio options become more and more restricted, the videos are likely to get less and less interesting.

Keep up the work. May Allah accept our intentions in all that we do.

]]> By: Aarif Subzposh http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89223 Aarif Subzposh Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:31:36 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89223 i personally dont like the beat boxing too much. Its too imitative of real music; its almost respecting the past beats of rappers etc. Uniqueness is key when dealing with Islamic media. And Allah knows best. i personally dont like the beat boxing too much. Its too imitative of real music; its almost respecting the past beats of rappers etc. Uniqueness is key when dealing with Islamic media.
And Allah knows best.

]]> By: Shuaib Mansoori http://www.leechon.com/to-much-beatbox-or-not-1232.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89206 Shuaib Mansoori Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:29:28 +0000 http://www.leechon.com/?p=1232#comment-89206 Assalamu Alaikum Akhi, Loved Siraaj's post, Masha Allah brought back memories of my own journey towards leaving music. With regards to beat-boxing, Alhamdulillah the issue became clear to me after listening to Shk. Kamal El-Mekki's "End of Music" lecture series. Definitely recommend listening to it, I wonder how he gave such a lecture amongst college going youth in NYC of all places! Akhi, I was wondering about an example of "non beat-boxing sounds that are also non instrumental" as you mentioned in your article above. Never knew that there's a possibility of making such sounds...will be interesting to know. JazakAllah Khair. Assalamu Alaikum Akhi,

Loved Siraaj’s post, Masha Allah brought back memories of my own journey towards leaving music.

With regards to beat-boxing, Alhamdulillah the issue became clear to me after listening to Shk. Kamal El-Mekki’s “End of Music” lecture series. Definitely recommend listening to it, I wonder how he gave such a lecture amongst college going youth in NYC of all places!

Akhi, I was wondering about an example of “non beat-boxing sounds that are also non instrumental” as you mentioned in your article above. Never knew that there’s a possibility of making such sounds…will be interesting to know.

JazakAllah Khair.

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